Day 2

--- Log opened Sun Oct 28 00:00:24 2012
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< mikimoto> 大家早 ^^
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<@Aminzai> 早安!
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< softcup> 早安~
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< softcup> pjax
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< hechien> 早安
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< hechien> 哦哦,這車爬坡的能力好像很讚@@
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< softcup> problem of ajax
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< softcup> 不刷新頁面改變內容,蛋無法改變頁面網址
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< softcup> another issue
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< softcup> 講者好快,來不及打
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< hechien> pjax = ajax + pushState
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< mikimoto> pjax 真不錯
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< softcup> xhr.setRequestHeader('X-PJAX', 'true')
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< hechien> 與Rails綁定的時候如果 request.headers['X-PJAX'] 有東西的話就 render layout: false 回去
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< softcup> TurboLinks
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< softcup> pjax 對 container 斤斤計較
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< softcup> TurboLinks 放大絕招:換掉整個 body
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< mikimoto> 換掉整個 <body>, 放大絕了
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< softcup> Benefit
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< softcup> 不需要 jQuery
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< softcup> 不對每個 Page 重新 compile JS/CSS
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< softcup> 對 heavy asset, light content 有非常強的提速效果
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< softcup> 可排除不需要 turbolinks 的頁面
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< softcup> assets change detection: full reload
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< softcup> data-method, data-remote, data-confirm
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< softcup> 延生問題
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< softcup> 衍生問題
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< softcup> 多數JS 不假設有 Turbolinks 這東西
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< softcup> 多數熱門的 plugin 可以配合 turbolinks
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< ChuSiang_s3> morning ... :)
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< hechien> D.H.H. 這次大概是拿散彈槍,開一槍,一堆JS libs中彈 Orz
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< softcup> ChuSiang_s3: 早
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< softcup> 真的
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< Derekhsu> Ie8有實作嗎
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< softcup> Suggestion ==
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< softcup> designed to be long-lived across many different HTML pages without a refresh
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< Derekhsu> 我完全忘記把昨天的文件袋帶來了
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< hechien> Derekhsu: 我則是昨天忘記把文件袋帶回去 ... 然後就被保管了XDDD
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< softcup> 事件處理不要綁定在 refresh handler
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< softcup> 使用第三方 code 時,確定不會綁定在 DOM 上
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< softcup> DOM Ready events 上
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< Derekhsu> 我的文件袋裝了一堆吃的,怎麼能不帶回去啊
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< hechien> Derekhsu: ........ 那一定要帶回去了XD
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< Derekhsu> Coffeescript
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< softcup> 好快~
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< Derekhsu> 我真的不太熟
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< hechien> 外面還有一些資料袋看可不可以要好了XD
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< Derekhsu> 好短
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< hechien> 現在還沒九點半囧 ...
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< hechien> 拱她Live demo一下好了XDDDD
09: 22
< softcup> 誰要幫忙問問題...:P
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< Derekhsu> 阿,他把時間當成coscup在講了
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<@Aminzai> 冏....麥克風沒電了
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<@Aminzai> IE出現了
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< mikimoto> IE MUST Die
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< Derekhsu> 我本來也想問這個問題
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< softcup> Aminzai, 衝啊!幫忙問問題
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< hechien> IE MUST DIE ++
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< Derekhsu> 沒辦法
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<@Aminzai> softcup: 沒跟這不熟阿..(聳肩
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< Derekhsu> 作製造業就知道了
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< RJ_> 人有點少...
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< Derekhsu> 對啊
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< Derekhsu> 又有一堆吃的了
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<@Aminzai> RJ_: Conf通常都是第二天人會少XDDD
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< RJ_> XDDDD
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< softcup> Aminzai: 有這種慣例?
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< Derekhsu> 會爛掉,這樣麻煩
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<@Aminzai> softcup: COSCUP每年都這樣@@
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< softcup> xddd
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< Derekhsu> 因為我們都這樣做
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<@Aminzai> 軟杯杯衝了!!
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< Derekhsu> 我在軟伯伯旁邊
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< softcup> 別這樣,讓講者多待一會兒
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< Marcus> XDite這場發問人比較多
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< Marcus_> XDite這場比較多人發問
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< mikimoto> 剛好可以繼續寫下一場的 source code
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< mikimoto> Lightning talk 大家快衝吧
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< softcup> https://parse.com/
<-- BobChao
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< hechien> 記得Dofi剛說:只要有第三個lightning talk講者,他就要把第一個消掉 XDDDD
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< xdite> XD
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< chusiang> MOPCON 2012 Day1 IRC log - http://goo.gl/KIBw9
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-!- chusiang- changed the topic of #mopcon to: 非官方 MOPCON 2012 IRC | 官方網站 - http://mopcon.org/ | 座位表 - http://imcheck.in/mopcon2012.html | freenode Web IRC - http://webchat.freenode.net/
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<@chusiang-> 非官方 MOPCON 2012 IRC | 官方網站 - http://mopcon.org/ | 座位表 - http://imcheck.in/mopcon2012.html | freenode Web IRC - http://webchat.freenode.net/ | Day1 log - http://goo.gl/KIBw9
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< mikimoto> hechien: 請阻止 Dofi 這麼作
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< softcup> 可以幫 Dofi 多加一場
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< mikimoto> 多加一場 ++
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-!- mode/#mopcon [+o mikimoto] by chusiang- 09: 55 [Users #mopcon]
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[@Aminzai ] [ BeataLin ] [ D-eye ] [ funnycat] [ Marcus ] [ xdite]
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[@chusiang-] [ BlueT_ ] [ DennyHuang] [ hechien ] [ Marcus_]
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[ afu ] [ ChuSiang_s3] [ FrankWu ] [ jserv-- ] [ softcup]
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<@mikimoto> Lightning talk 需要大家幫忙集氣~~
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<@chusiang-> 今日有事,大家要好好玩啊!!
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<@mikimoto> chusiang-: Q_Q
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< hlb> lightning talk 還有名額嗎
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< RJ_> 話說BlueT勒~
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< ChuSiang_s3> 應該還是有五個以上!?
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< bobchao> 這頻道有人有 log 嗎?剛都連不上想回顧一下
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< RJ_> 交通上...
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< bobchao> (正在 mikimoto)
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< ChuSiang_s3> bobchao 今日的!?
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< bobchao> ChuSiang_s3: 嗯對啊
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< softcup>
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< bobchao> softcup: (伸)
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< bobchao> softcup: thanks!
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< softcup> bobchao: ^_^
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< softcup> 很多沒記錄到,等簡報檔吧
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< bobchao> softcup: 大部分的研討會都是第二天比較少人耶,這可能跟「免費」有點關係就是
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< chusiang> 不過這個 LOG 只有到 10:00 的 XDD
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< bobchao> passbook - geolocation awareness, time alert, 動態換資訊 (接近機場 - show 資訊 - 改登機門資訊時自動更新資料等)
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< bobchao> chusiang: thanks!
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< ChuSiang_s3> 慘,得收心了。
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< softcup> bobchao: 免費也不能這樣,覺得浪費主辦者的心血
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< bobchao> softcup: 嗯 不過這真的是常見的狀況就是了
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< ChuSiang_s3> shawn 有去嘛!?
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< softcup> bobchao: 了解
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< bobchao> 也會有很多人報名不到的 所以我們一般都估 7-8 成,也就是會「超賣」
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< ChuSiang_s3> 怎麼了!? 今日去的人變少了
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< bobchao> (所以像今年 coscup 報到率上升的後果就是座位炸開... 雖然也是因為少一個交誼廳換人數比較少的 workshop)
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< softcup> 不曉得小會議室的狀況,就海景來說少了許多
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< ChuSiang_s3> 嗯嗯
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< bobchao> softcup: 小會議室 21 人,大概坐 3/5
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< softcup> 家後,小三。攜手並進,擁抱未來
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< softcup> 海景大約坐了 1/2
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< Marcus_> 開始了!
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< Marcus_> 開始了
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< softcup> Demo.....
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< RJ_> XDDDDD
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< softcup> 七秒...Orz
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< softcup> Single Server
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< softcup> All-in-one
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< bobchao> mikimoto 這場目前是在講實作,我想我後面的設計師聽起來應該有點苦手
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< softcup> 伺服器農場
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< softcup> 網路拓樸 - 馬甲
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< softcup> Backup
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< softcup> tar zcvf .....
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< softcup> DAS
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< softcup> NAS
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< Derekhsu> 看到馬甲就想要拉開
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< bobchao> 有趣的想法:如果研討會會場有很多小圓桌 讓有興趣詳談的合作夥伴可以坐下來談
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< softcup> Remote backup
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<@Aminzai> Over18....XDDD
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< bobchao> 不曉得能不能更促成什麼
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< hlb> bobchao: 有設計師來參加?
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< softcup> redundent network
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< softcup> 看來要去聽小會議室的
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< bobchao> hlb: yup
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< softcup> DR site
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< softcup> Disaster Recovery
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< softcup> == New Age ==
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< softcup>
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< bobchao> hlb: 因為她剛剛問我 IRC 是什麼 才知道的
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< hlb> 那來報 fire.app lightning talk
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< softcup> 像核彈雲
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< softcup> Server site 轉換苦哈哈
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< bobchao> hlb: 我想她應該不是你想的那種設計師,可能還是偏視覺跟體驗設計
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< softcup> Tier 1-4
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< bobchao> 不過沒什麼不好
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< bobchao> mikimoto 講蠻細的,現在是 passbook 的 layout
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< softcup> 除此之外,還要把服務移來移去
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< hlb> 視覺設計師好阿
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< bobchao> hlb: then that would be nice :)
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< softcup> 轉換 VMs
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< softcup> == 服務/軟體開發 ==
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< softcup> 以前 2 tier
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< softcup> 現在 3 .. N tier
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< softcup> CQD: 早啊!
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< CQD> 睡過頭了 XD
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< softcup> 以前 Modulize
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< Derekhsu> 我昨天吃太多,早上狂拉肚子
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< softcup> 現在...還是看圖吧~
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< xdite> 我今天有帶 burn rate 在身上 有誰想要中午休息時間一起玩? XD
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< softcup> 以前 pass/share 資料
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< Derekhsu> 有分工程師,經理那個?
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< softcup> return, unix-socket
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< softcup> 現在 pub/sub
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< CQD> burn rate 好玩,雖然上次玩是好幾年前了....
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< softcup> 起前 wile
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< softcup> while
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< softcup> 現在 event base
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< bobchao> passbook 要加簽(想當然),有版本制。簽完以後用任何檔案傳輸方式進手機就行,更新上則是設定檔內看 token 跟 webservice url
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< bobchao> xdite: 我前幾天在辦公室裡看到中文版耶 才知道有中文版
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< bobchao> 翻譯還 ok
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< Derekhsu> 那個英文也很少啊
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< softcup> == 救贖 ==
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< bobchao> Derekhsu: 對 所以我覺得有中文版還挺神奇...
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< softcup> db 抽象層
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< xdite> bobchao: 嗯。因為英文版全球賣斷貨了。(拜我當年勸敗所賜,全球存貨在當年一口氣賣光...)
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< softcup> 不用擔心機器多開
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< softcup> 自動多開機器
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< softcup> 線上編輯
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< ericpi> aaa
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< bobchao> xdite: 賀, 可惜沒有談抽成
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< softcup> 存檔立即 apply
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< bobchao> XD
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< xdite> 所以台灣自己去談版權自己印....
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< xdite> bobchao: 有啊。我自己跟廠商批了兩百套來賣 XDDDDD
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< softcup> ImonCloud --自己看圖
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< xdite> 所以我現在也是桌遊經銷商了 XD
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< bobchao> xdite: XDDDDDDDDD
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< softcup> xdd
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< Derekhsu> Burn rate對工程師來說還滿有趣的
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< bobchao> mikimoto 這場真的是教學 XD 其實還是講蠻細的
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< softcup> 我後悔了,我對小會議室的內容比較感興趣
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< bobchao> softcup: you still have chance :P
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< bobchao> softcup: also 我有看到他們錄影
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< softcup> 嗯嗯
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<@Aminzai> BlueT好像變瘦了= =a
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<@Aminzai> 傳說中的肚子不見了@@
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< bobchao> PKPass 的東西直接看文件就好
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< softcup> == Problem ==
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< softcup> API
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* bobchao 突然發現這是第一次跟軟杯同場參加一個研討會耶!
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< hlb> 其實可以用 passbook 玩大逃殺
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< softcup> bobchao: 是嗎?? (不會丟私人訊息)
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< hlb> 每人一個 pass 定時更新位置
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< softcup> Query String
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< softcup> RESTful
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< softcup> all in GET url
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< hlb> 接近5m會告訴你被盯上了
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< softcup> HTTP Method
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< bobchao> hlb: 這似乎是很不利於 snipper 的設計 XDDD
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< bobchao> sniper
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< softcup> Protocol
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< softcup> HTTP
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< softcup> Comet
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< Derekhsu> 做成刺客教條多人對戰版的那種
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< softcup> Speedy
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< softcup> WebSocket
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< softcup> Socket
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< softcup> Scalibility
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< softcup> Simgle Server
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< softcup> Global
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< softcup> DNS, CDN
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< Derekhsu> 病毒碼就是透過CDN delivery
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< bobchao> 會場拿 ?Pad 的人也太. 多. 了. 吧?
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< softcup> Data sharding/partitioning/segment
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< Derekhsu> 我剛剛看到一個可以用筆的pad
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< CQD> 講到這個,不知道有沒有辦法透過 wifi 統計 device 分佈?
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< Derekhsu> 看不出來是哪一家的,可以跑desktop的chrome
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< softcup> CQD: 靠你了
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< ericpi> CQD: 加油!
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< bobchao> CQD 似乎可行?
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< bobchao> Derekhsu: 我剛有看到 不過以為他是開 VNC 那類的東西
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< bobchao> 因為選單太小了
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< bobchao> (但不確定)
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< Derekhsu> 是嗎,我覺得好神
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< ericpi> 有 live demo 時間就一定夠啊
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< ericpi> XD
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< softcup> xPad 有所謂的遠端桌面
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< Derekhsu> 話說,老虎好像又要被完封了
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< CQD> 正道大概是弄個網頁跪求大家去連然後做統計...
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< softcup> 我有用過還不錯
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< Derekhsu> 那不是iPad
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< CQD> 在 gateway 用 sniffer 聽的話大概會被打吧[默]
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< bobchao> softcup: 我 iPad 上是有裝一些遠端桌面軟體,Android 手機上也有裝,應該是都有類似 VNC 的東西這樣
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< bobchao> passbook 是不是只有 iPhone 有啊
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< softcup> bobchao: iPad 我有用過的是使用微軟的遠端桌面協定
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< bobchao> iPad 好像沒有
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< Derekhsu> iPad
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< Derekhsu> 有很多這種東西
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< softcup> 在區網用還蠻順的
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< softcup> VNC 我就沒用了,我覺得效能比較差
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< bobchao> 我錯了我應該兩句連在一起打:
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< bobchao> passbook 是不是只有 iPhone 有啊?iPad 好像沒有
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< Marcus_> 我旁邊那位拿的是跑純 Windows 的 平板電腦
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< Derekhsu> RDP好多了
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< Derekhsu> 但是那個CHROME
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< bobchao> 我要去隔壁囉!
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< bobchao> 這邊結束了
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< Derekhsu> 很順還能用手推
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< CQD> Win8 RT?
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< Derekhsu> 那也太快拿到了
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< Marcus_> 不是,跑 windows 7的
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< softcup> Win7 有這麼好的效能嗎?
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< softcup> 會議開始
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< softcup> KKBOX
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< softcup> == Mobile Platform ==
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< softcup> Reliability
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< softcup> Speed
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< softcup> Latency
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< xdite> DK 叫我不要聽他演講。然後塞了一套十萬塊的音響設備強迫我聽......
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< ericpi> 行動網路有可能到 500~600ms Latency
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< softcup> Device Part
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< softcup> It's much slower
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< ericpi> xdite: 那是他最近勸敗的神器吧 XD
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< softcup> 以續航力為主
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< hlb> xdite: 啥東西一套 10 萬 :p
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< xdite> 他一直跟我說十萬塊很便宜 =_=
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< softcup> 十萬塊....Orz
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< xdite> 耳機 64000 輸出設備 40000 多
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< Derekhsu> 高級音響有到百萬級的
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< ericpi> 聆聽爽度無價 (誤
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< hechien> ....好貴
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< Derekhsu> 所以會說10萬便宜吧
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< bobchao> xdite: 原來你那耳機要 64000!!!
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< softcup> Client 的修改
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< bobchao> (我在你斜後方 :P)
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< xdite> 他剛警告我千萬不要刮到.....
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< ericpi> Derekhsu: 耳機系統到十萬已經可以巴死幾十萬的音響了
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< softcup> Server 的配合
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< bobchao> 括一下便宜算你 2000
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< xdite> 我忘記檢查上面有沒有預載刮痕 =_=
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< softcup> 預載..XDD
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< ericpi> xdite: 使用前先拍照存證 XD
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< softcup> 1 POST, 4 GET
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< softcup> Merge , 髒,但有效率
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< Derekhsu> 每次API call要帶一個序號
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< softcup> Operation with Strict-Increasing Serial
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< softcup> Client Post 後,網路中斷,Server 成功,但 Client 失敗
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< softcup> Use databse to store the serial of each Device
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< softcup> Third Multiple Objects Design
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< softcup> Third,
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< softcup> 減少連線數量
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< softcup> GET /song/1,2,.....20
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< softcup> 設計 API,一開始就設計成支援取得多筆資料
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< hechien> 剛抬起頭來看右前方發現xdite的耳機好大 .... Orz
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< softcup> 取得多筆與取單筆資料 API 並存時,最後大家只會用取得多筆的 API
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< softcup> Fourth, Filter Results
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< hechien> @dofi 你成功進來了?
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< hechien> DOFI: 你成功進來了?
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< DOFI> 怎看之前內容?
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< softcup> Then....
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< hechien> mikimoto: 有log可以看嗎這邊
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< DOFI> IRC 超新手....Orz
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< hechien> mikimoto: 還有我轉不到Starbucks $ 3000 的pass ... QQ
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< softcup> GET /song/1,2,3....20/name ---> Fourth
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< softcup> Fifth, Compression
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< softcup> JSON 的壓縮率超高
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< softcup> 減少流量
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< softcup> 減少用電量
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< softcup> Sixth, Use Port 80 & 443
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< softcup> 防火牆擋很兇
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< hlb> T_T
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< softcup> Server 支援 Byte Range
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< softcup> 好像記錯了,是 Client 支援 Byte Range
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< softcup> 盡量每個 API 做完一個整個事
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< softcup> 專輯代碼,歌手,歌曲長度,歌曲名稱
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< BlueT_> xdite: burn rate!!
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< BlueT_> CQD: 有 # 10:39< CQD> 講到這個,不知道有沒有辦法透過 wifi 統計 device 分佈?
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< CQD> 乾淨的方法?
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< BlueT_> CQD: wifi 韌體改一點點,然後一台 server 統計做三角定位,可以知道位置。(目前有個朋友在做)
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< softcup> Response Code
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< softcup> 在 Mobile 的環境上,會有奇奇怪怪的 Proxy
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< BlueT_> Aminzai: 我有瘦?
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< softcup> 理論上 Server 傳什麼 Response Code, Client 應該就會收到
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< ericpi> "xdite 你不要亂問問題啦" XD
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<@Aminzai> BlueT_: 感覺上是XDD
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< hechien> BlueT_: 你好壞,一看到我就說我變胖了Q_Q ...
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< RJ_> XDDDDDDDD
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< softcup> Device uid
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< softcup> mac address
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< softcup> 勉勉強強可以用 mac address 來識別 Device
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< BlueT_> CQD: 要多乾淨?@@ 這沒有啥 hack 呀 XD 不然 AP 上可以看 mac
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< CQD> 啊,我想的是數量統計之類的 XD
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< BlueT_> Aminzai: 大謝 XDD *挺* (縮肚子)
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<@Aminzai> BlueT_: 你應該是酒喝比較少XDD
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< CQD> 用 sniffer 應該也是可以,不過這樣就比較髒一點....XD
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< BlueT_> CQD: sniffer 更髒吧 XDDDD
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< CQD> 是啊
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< xdite> 這隻耳機真的好厲害 Q_Q
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< CQD> 我想到的乾淨做法是弄個網頁讓後跪求大家來連來讀
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< BlueT_> CQD: 看你是 ap 擁有者,還是你是 wifi 使用者的角色
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< CQD> 不過感覺有點麻煩,又想不到更好的做法
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< bobchao> 目前 R1 的連續三個問題都是講者提的 XD
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< bobchao> xdite -> hlb -> cervantes
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< bobchao> DOFI: 要找別人要 log 喔
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< CQD> 就算拿得到 AP ,好像也不能不聽資料來取得 device data?
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< CQD> 啊,弄個「按一下以使用無線網路」好像可以混過去.....XD
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< bobchao> 「還有問題嗎?看起來沒有,那我們可以放飯了...」
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< BlueT_> CQD: 你是 AP owner 的話,可以直接看 DHCP client 數呀
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<@Aminzai> 放飯拉~~~~
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< CQD> DHCP 可以看到「我是 iPad」「我是 Sensation」之類的裝置資訊嗎?
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< BlueT_> CQD: 要看 client 有沒有丟出來
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< hlb> 寫好 lightning talk 投影片了 :p
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< ChuSiang_s3> 午餐時間!? XDD
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< BlueT_> hlb: 剛剛跟大大打招呼,大大沒認出我齁 XD
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< xdite> BlueT_: 你變得跟當年很不一樣 XDDDD
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< BlueT_> xdite: 你說身材嗎.....(淚)
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< hlb> http://www.hpx-party.com/hpx-events/hp42 也在高軟耶 O_O
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< hlb> BlueT_: @@
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< hlb> 隔壁棟有游泳池!
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< hechien> @[email protected]
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< hechien> 要錢的嗎
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< CQD> 隔壁好像是痞子家 ...
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< hlb> 1F 的活動聲音可以傳到 12F :D
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< softcup_> Orz
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< softcup_> HPX
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< D-eye> 到底是哪來的啦XD
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< hlb> jserv 同時又是杏昕科技的研發掌
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< hlb>
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< hlb> jserv 同時到底有多少身分 XD
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< Derekhsu> 所以是兼差
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< Derekhsu> 哪天當了總統我也不會太意外了
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< softcup> 看到馬尾妹想去抓,也產生一堆生理訊號
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< Derekhsu> 可以用來分析色狼
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<@Aminzai> HRV耶!!
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<@mikimoto> bobchao: PassBook 目前 iPad 還沒有,只有掌上型機種 iPhone, iPod Touch 有
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<@mikimoto> 如果有 iOS6 的朋友,想玩早上 Demo 的 網址,網址在這裡: http://kaohsiung.cocoaheads.tw/PassBook/
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< softcup> Baby HRV monitor
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<@Aminzai> 1導程可以做這麼多嘛[email protected]@a
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<@mikimoto> 轉到 3000 元的第一個朋友,我請喝咖啡一杯 XD
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< Derekhsu> 可以拿來當成關014的電子腳暸
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< softcup> 壓力...
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<@mikimoto> xdite: 剛剛說的桌遊,之前看大大的 Blog 寫過,我有興趣耶,等一下找大大買
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<@mikimoto> 過勞死 @[email protected] (抖)
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< hlb> mikimoto: 打開來改數值再存回去 :p
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< Derekhsu> 戰鬥力偵測器!!
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< xdite> 直接從這裡下吧。之前進的都賣光了 XD
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< softcup> 人快不行時,心跳越規律...
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< Derekhsu> 這樣就可以榨乾員工又不會把員工操死!太好了
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<@mikimoto> hlb: 抓 source code 回來,自己改一改,要多少錢有多少錢 :p
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< Derekhsu> 這是NBA 2k真人版嗎
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<@mikimoto> Cool, 電玩真人版耶
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< Derekhsu> 這樣我們就能當鍵盤教練了
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<@mikimoto> 可以透過鍵盤打指導球了 XD
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< Derekhsu> 我要拿去裝在正妹身上
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< softcup> 不能打假球
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<@mikimoto> 以後會不會被老婆強制裝上這個啊 (抖抖...)
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< softcup> 做在衣服上,以後被追蹤都不曉得了...Orz
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<@mikimoto> 這對上班還要監控在睡覺的女兒有沒有摔到床下,很好用耶,不過穩定度很重要
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< Derekhsu> 這樣可以測試性侵犯
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* jserv-- 正在 live debug >_<
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<@mikimoto> jserv--: ++, 加油加油 (搖旗吶喊)
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< irvin_> 腦波貓耳,
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< Derekhsu> 等一下會找人試驗偵測興奮嗎?
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< jserv--> Derekhsu, 可以到 Acomo 的攤位試試看
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< xdite> 被 DK 綁架只能一直聽音樂,不能聽 talk =_=
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<@mikimoto> 老婆生氣了... (驚), 可能不是趕快回家,而是去找朋友尋求庇護
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<@mikimoto> Derekhsu: 怎麼偵測興奮,要跳鋼管嗎?
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< hechien> xdite: 這是幸福還是...
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< softcup> 先生?
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< softcup> EKG
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< softcup> 三點即可偵測...
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<@mikimoto> 我比較想問的不是技術問題,而是怎麼 Do not do evil ?
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< Derekhsu> 但我想問how to do evil
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<@mikimoto> Derekhsu: 你好壞
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< Derekhsu> 時間應該撐夠了嗎?要demo了!
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<@mikimoto> jserv--: 大神 live demo 開始
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<@mikimoto> 我想要買一套來 hack BlueT 兩週瘦 20 kg 的 source code :p
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< softcup> 塞尿布,用過即丟?
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< hlb> 有尿布即時監控濕度 device 好像不賴
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<@mikimoto> 有趣最重要 :p
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< Derekhsu> 原來是覺得高處不勝寒了
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<@mikimoto> Mic 又被 hack 了 .... Q_Q
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< irvin_> Yeah
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< irvin_> @@
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< hechien> irvin_: 一樓的XD
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< bobchao> 我又跳出去啦 我又跳回來啦 打我啊 CQD
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< Derekhsu> 有人在隔壁嗎
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< bobchao> 我在 sleepnova
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<@mikimoto> 沒想到我昨天打趣說要把 HPX 搬到樓上,結果居然 Mic 被 hack 了
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< jserv--> 頑皮豹 CEO 上台
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<@mikimoto> 看來不能隨便向宇宙下訂單
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< softcup> 麥克風沒聲音
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< softcup> 2012 東森大選即時開票
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< softcup> Windows Mobile 使用者佔不到 0.5%
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< softcup> 忽略不管
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<@mikimoto> 忽略不管++
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< jserv--> 只用一天的服務!
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< softcup> 壓力測試...XD
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<@mikimoto> 你永遠不知道那天會有多少人,所以我們以後的雲端服務要直接估算 2000 萬人嗎? :p
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< bobchao> XD
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< softcup> 2200 萬次讀取
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< softcup> > 100 萬造訪
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< softcup> 流量 60GB
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< softcup> 平均回應時間 100ms
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<@mikimoto> 2200 萬,全台差不多就這個人數 XDDD
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< Derekhsu> 沒看到人打字
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< softcup> 平均 30000/5min
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< softcup> 實價登錄
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<@mikimoto> 3000/5 min
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< softcup> 查詢量大暫時關閉...Xd
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< softcup> 3000 / 5min
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<@mikimoto> 有很大的進步空間,真客氣
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< jserv--> 「我就知道」好威
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< jserv--> 請講者說話不要太含蓄 @[email protected]
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< softcup> 雲深不知處
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< softcup> 目標:開發高品質的 App
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< softcup> 麥克風有噪音
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< bobchao> freenode 好像出了什麼問題... 大家現在連線有可能連到「不同的 #mopcon」
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< jserv--> 不讓你上
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< CQD> 人家要上嘛...
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< bobchao> 三不五時會進入異空間這樣
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< jserv--> 「客戶通常不知道自己在幹嘛」
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< irvin_> 上了不同的雲了
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< CQD> 好像有不止一個平行世界,最少三個.
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<@mikimoto> 所以 MOPCON 現場是時空交錯點,有平行空間想 hack 我們嗎?
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< hechien> 隔壁怎麼了@@
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< jserv--> 跟智商有關
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< softcup> 講者說,這個智商一定有問題
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<@mikimoto> 講者終於放開來了?
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< softcup> App 做得 perfect
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< hechien> Orz
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< softcup> Google 不准上架
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< softcup> 東西給了約都還沒簽
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<@mikimoto> 東西都給了約還沒簽,我怎麼覺得這畫面很寫實?
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< xdite> 為什麼不先簽約呢...?
14: 51
< Derek_> 終於進來了
14: 51
< softcup> 顧問費 VS 實作費的差異
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< Derek_> 隔壁在說甚麼
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<@mikimoto> xdite: 台灣的工程師太有人情味?
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< bobchao> mikimoto: 原來麥克風的雜音就是徵兆
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< hechien> Derek_: 小廳在講雲端
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< softcup> 兩個禮拜要送審
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< softcup> 裝置問題
14: 52
< softcup> 記得一堆裝置給你..
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<@mikimoto> bobchao: 原來如此,發現徵兆了,下一個是帝國大反攻 XDDD
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< softcup> s/記得/寄了
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< jserv--> 又是智商有問題
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<@mikimoto> 又是智商有問題++
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< hechien> micloud
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< softcup> 第三方 store issue
14: 53
< Derek_> 應該是三星或某isp吧
14: 53
< softcup> 案例三....密
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< bobchao> RJ_: 幫我問一下強哥要不要報 lightning talk
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< softcup> 為什麼你們比別人貴?
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< bobchao> RJ_: 報他的 COSCO XD
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< softcup> Web app in a Webview
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< softcup> ? vs 雞腿
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< softcup> Android 多版本
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<@mikimoto> Andorid 開發者超級辛苦
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< softcup> 螢幕 size 非常多
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< softcup> 又一個打十個
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< softcup> 你是被打的那個
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< softcup> 你以為你在創新,其實是在代工
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< bobchao> 一天一App
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< bobchao> 這好炫 XD
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< softcup> 做 app -> 做網頁
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< softcup> 雲端 -> 末端
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< Derek_> 對Ezo的評價真高
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< BlueT_> hlb: 外面風景真的很好 :D
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< softcup> 藍海 -> 紅海
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< softcup> 解決問題 -> 瓜分預算
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< Derek_> 時空重疊了
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< Derek_> 雲端也有很多主題
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< softcup> 回歸產品價值
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< jserv--> 「我現在可能先回去作 Web」
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< jserv--> 本日最經典
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< BlueT_> xdite: 中午有開團嗎?怎麼沒看到 @@ # burn rate
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< softcup> 什麼?結束了?
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< Derek_> 沒人在隔壁哦
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< hechien> Derek_: 呃,有
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< Derek_> 有什麼keyword嗎
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< BlueT_> mikimoto: 兩週瘦快 10kg 啦 XD 只要天天睡在潮濕的床、枕頭、棉被上,發燒 41 度連續一週,就可以完成了! # 14:11
<@mikimoto> 我想要買一套來 hack BlueT 兩週瘦 20 kg 的 source code :p
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< xdite> BlueT_: 我被抓著聽耳機無法跑....
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< hechien> Derek_: micloud & nodejs可以算是嗎XD
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< bobchao> BlueT_: 真好,還提供 source code
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< Derek_> 我用半年才瘦17kg
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< hechien> 準備進行demo了...
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< bobchao> #天天睡在潮溼的床...
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< Derek_> Micloud我沒聽過
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< hechien> Derek_: http://portal.micloud.tw/
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< BlueT_> mikimoto: 應該至少要 c10k # 14:39
<@mikimoto> 你永遠不知道那天會有多少人,所以我們以後的雲端服務要直接估算 2000 萬人嗎? :p
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< hechien> Derek_: 主要是在說服務跑在雲端上的好處
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< Derek_> 我跑來了
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< BlueT_> softcup: 你在 Caesar 的場?
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< softcup> 沒...
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< softcup> 在 sleepnova
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< BlueT_> # 14:42
< softcup> 3000 / 5min
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< softcup> BlueT_: 這個是實價登錄系統的
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< hlb> BlueT_: 有報 lightning talk 了嗎
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< Derek_> 政府做的東西,不用太期待
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< hechien> 請隔壁廳一起連看看 (誤
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< BlueT_> hechien: Caesar 在講 micloud?
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< hechien> BlueT_: 有看到
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< BlueT_> bobchao: 我還提供客製化 solution 喔! XD
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< bobchao> BlueT_: 真開心 但 Bug 要解一下... XD
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< jserv--> 布丁長輩!
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< bobchao> BlueT_: "發燒 41 度連續一週" 這邊可能要依個人體質不同寫成設定檔比較好 (炸飛)
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< hechien> bobchao++
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< BlueT_> softcup: 實價登錄系統?抱歉剛才沒在會議廳內 Orz
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< BlueT_> hlb: 演講不做廣告,改成 LT 打廣告嗎?XDDD
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< BlueT_> bobchao: 我相信我現在智商變低一定是那時燒壞的
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< softcup> Lightening Talk 開始....
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< hlb> BlueT_: 報了沒啊...
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< softcup> 時間一樣是五分鐘
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< softcup> 一分鐘時有人形立牌
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< softcup> 時間到有語音提醒
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< softcup> DOFI
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< softcup> App 1.0 文字
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< softcup> app 2.0 windows
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< softcup> App 3.0 web base
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< softcup> Client
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< softcup> server
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< softcup> 3.0 重點分 client - server
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< softcup> 新一代架構 MVC
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< hlb> mvc 四十年了... 沒有很新啊 *_*
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< BlueT_> hlb: 你說今天早上沒成的 FPS 嗎?那不是我做的東西,我只是 3rd Party Service Provider XDDDD
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< softcup> XD
15: 35
< softcup> App 3.0 實力
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< softcup> 實例
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< softcup> Gmail
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< softcup> Web 2.0
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< softcup> POS
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< softcup> 點餐系統
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< softcup> Demo
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< hechien> irvin_: 快上去寫題目
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< derekhsu> 結果我又看不到了
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< Aminzai> irvin_: 衝吧!
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< BlueT_> hlb: and 他有報,不過現在還在趕工的樣子 @@
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< softcup> 第二位...
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< softcup> RJ
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< softcup> 打廣告
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< softcup> 半年一度
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< softcup> Ubutu Release party
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< softcup> 北中南高各半一場 (打算)
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< hlb> 顧著聊天!
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< BlueT_> Ubuntu QQ!!
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< softcup> s/Ubutu/Ubuntu
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< softcup> 第三位...
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< Aminzai> 研討會==聊天會
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< BlueT_> Ubuntu Release Party 分享者 我招待那餐
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< BlueT_> 請大家踴躍來分享 XD
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< softcup> 大眼
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< BlueT_> 又 net split 哭哭
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< softcup> 結合手寫與注音
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< Aminzai> 剛剛我就被split掉了(無言
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< softcup> Zinnia Android 與 Google 注音倉頡輸入法
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< softcup> 東撥一點西撥一點結合在一起
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< BlueT_> 所以不只是要有多 server / datacenter 在世界各地,還要能讓所有資訊即時同步/轉送
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< softcup> Demo
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< softcup> 全部有效的注音序列組合只有 1473 種
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< softcup> 第四位
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< softcup> 連轉接頭都準備好了
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< softcup> App 行銷經驗談
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< hechien> 結果 irvin_ 還在測試,最後的名額就被搶走了XD
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< softcup> XD
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< BlueT_> irvin_: 要講啥?
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< BlueT_> hechien: irvin_ 要講啥?
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< hechien> BlueT_: ThunderBird
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< irvin_> hechien: BlueT_ 等下一場XD
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< softcup> 製作網頁
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< softcup> 製作影片
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< softcup> 社群網頁
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< softcup> App 置入廣告
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< BlueT_> hechien: 幫忙轉達一下
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< hechien> BlueT_: 嗯?
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< BlueT_> hechien: rsghost 要把時間讓給他
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< softcup> 製作免費版
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< BlueT_> hechien: 第七位
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< hechien> BlueT_: ... 我把軟體刪掉了XDDDDDDDD
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< irvin_> BlueT_: @@
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< hechien> irvin_: 你要衝嗎?
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< softcup> 多國語言
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< BlueT_> hechien: irvin_ : 還有 20 分鐘可以重裝,夠了 XD
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< hechien> irvin_: 要衝的話我就重新下載給你
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< softcup> 買廣告
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< BlueT_> hechien: 先下載吧 XD
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< hlb> 奇妙的心得分享 O_O
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< softcup> 媒體
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< BlueT_> irvin_: 衝吧衝吧 XD
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< irvin_> hechien: BlueT_ 有時間就好啊
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< BlueT_> irvin_: 現在第四位,你是第七位
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< hechien> irvin_ 緊張得像是個 *待嫁的小姑娘*
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< softcup> irvin_: 衝啊~~
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< softcup> 第五位
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< softcup> Fire App
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< softcup> HTML Prototype
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< BlueT_> hechien: irvin_ : 我去跟主持人講囉
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< irvin_> BlueT_: Okok
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< irvin_> Tks
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< BlueT_> hechien , irvin_ : 講了, Topic 是啥?要找人去改一下牆上那張紙
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< jserv--> Conference-Driven Development
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< BlueT_> hlb: CDD *握*
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< BlueT_> hlb: 我也是 OSDC / COSCUP / MOPCON 上新版 XD
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< irvin_> BlueT_: 等下我改吧XD
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< softcup> 第六位
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< irvin_> 勞駕BlueTㄉㄉ幫我報名,惶恐惶恐
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< hlb> 出現馬尾
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< D-eye> 為什麼Lighting Talk玩之後Ubuntu就Crush了
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< BlueT_> irvin_: 有機會能幫大大報名,我都快閃尿了
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< hlb> 之後還有什麼研討會呢 >.<
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< BlueT_> hlb: 我也想知道
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< BlueT_> hlb: Ubuntu Release Party 要來分享嗎? XD
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< hlb> BlueT_: 雖然 Fire.app 可以在 Ubuntu 底下跑,但是......
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< D-eye> 所以為什麼RsGGG沒上台XDD
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< jserv--> 異次元
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< Aminzai> HI
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< irvinchen> yeah
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< BlueT_> hlb: 有任何過程式在 Ubuntu 上嗎?
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< jserv--> irvinchen, 賀!
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< BlueT_> yeah
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< D-eye> 媽我在這!
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< Aminzai> 媽!我在這!0.0/
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< hlb> YO!
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< BlueT_> 我是紅的我比較明顯
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< jserv--> D-eye, 文件交出來 XD
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< D-eye> RedT
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< BlueT_> ThunderBird Rules!~
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< hlb> BlueT_: 有啊,Fire.app/Compass.app XD
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< jserv--> 原來是 Thunder IRC
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< hlb> BlueT_: 還有專門給 Ubuntu 的 FAQ XD https://github.com/handlino/CompassApp/wiki/FAQ
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< jserv--> Otakun
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< BlueT_> hlb: anything related to ubuntu! XD
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< hechien> 媽我在這 (來不及了)
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< BlueT_> irvin_: welcome back!
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< softcup> 第八位
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< softcup> App Store 統計 > 50% 的遊戲
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< jserv--> 人參啊
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< softcup> 三比八法則
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< BlueT_> hlb: 2012/12/01
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< softcup> 第九位
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< irvin_> Thunderbird 輔助說明: 即時通訊與聊天 https://support.mozillamessaging.com/zh-TW/kb/instant-messaging-and-chat
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< irvin_> 都一個人講完了我才按到發送CD
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< hlb> BlueT_: XD
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< irvin_> 發送按鈕
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< softcup> Evernote 的衣服
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< irvin_> Startup Digest?
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< softcup> 第十位
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< hechien> 這場是相聲吧...
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< softcup> 今年有 13 場 conf
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< BlueT_> 我之前就想找伴講兩人演講 XD
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< hechien> BlueT_: 這真的很有趣
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< jserv--> 2013/02/03
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< jserv--> Conference of Conference
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<@mikimoto> COSCO ^^
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< hlb> 非程式碼貢獻者是什麼 @@
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< softcup> 第十一位
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< BlueT_> hlb: pro motor (TM)
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< jserv--> hlb, contributor of non-code ?
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< jserv--> Doom !!!
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< irvin_> - 不會寫程式的貢獻者
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< jserv--> - 抓馬尾的貢獻者
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< softcup> 程式註解...XD
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<@mikimoto> jserv--: 馬尾++
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< bobchao> 我跟強哥的 slide: http://bit.ly/coscco_slides
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< bobchao> 有興趣可以看一下登記一下
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<@mikimoto> bobchao: ++
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< softcup> 我覺得 CQD 會被拔...XD
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< hechien> bobchao++
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< irvin_> 期待期待!
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< hechien> XD
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< hlb> 這兩天常常在投影片上看到 typo @@
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< softcup> 這麼剛好...
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< hechien> 真的被拔了XD
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< softcup> 第十二位...
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< softcup> 台語場...XD
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< D-eye> 超強XDDDDD
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< hechien> 好奇妙的感覺XDDD
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< CQD> 台語超強 XDDDD
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< Aminzai> 台語好順XDD
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< irvin_> MOPCON繼掛耳包只挑後又破紀錄了
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< hlb> T_T
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< hlb> 這個配樂...
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< jserv--> 穿得比較少的就是媒體記者啦 :P
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< jserv--> Touch me now!
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< softcup> 超多點心
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< hlb> 真的超多點心 @@"
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< D-eye> 午餐很好吃XD
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